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Starting issues on Audi 5000TQ...

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 5:48 pm
by SteveAngry
Ok so I'm still not having much luck with getting this thing to start up good.

Whats happening is that it cranks over and fires and shoots to 2000 rpm's and then dies over and over. I have to do this 7-8 times before it stays running. Giving it gas either kills it or keeps it running...very random. I am using the stock ISV.

Heres' some of my settings. Maybe some of you guys can look it over and see where I'm wrong.

Cranking:

Prime pump: Always
Fire priming Pulse: Twice
Priming PW Source: Priming Table
Standard PW: 0.4
Cranking Pulse Width Temp: CLT only

Pulse widths:
-40 18.1
-20 12.1
0 8.1
20 6.1
40 5.6
60 5.1
80 4.6
100 4.1
130 3.6
160 3.1

AfterStart Enrichment

ASE Timer: Cycles
ASE Total Time: 250
ASE Mode: Decay
Map Mode: Normal MAP
Fixed MAP Mode when coolant under: 45.0
Fixed ASE/MAP time period: 20
Fixed MAP value: 67

After Start Enrichment Table
-40 100
-20 85
0 75
20 60
40 50
60 35
80 25
100 15
130 8
160 8

Warm Up Wizard

-40 200
-20 195
0 185
20 180
40 115
60 110
80 105
100 100
130 100
160 100

Constants

Req Fuel 6.8

Injector opening time: 1.2ms
Battery voltage: 0.10
PWM current Limit: 100%
PWM Time Threshold: 25.4

Control Algorithim: Speed Density
Injections per cycle: 1 squirt
Injector staging: Simultaneous
Engine stroke: Four
Cylinder number: 5
Injectors: 5
MAP: 250 kpa
Engine type: Even fire

EGO control

EGO Sensor type: Narrow
EGO switch: 0.451
Ignition events: 30
Controller step size: 1
Controller authority: 15
Active above coolant temp: 90
Active above RPM: 1100
EGO Correction step counter: Msec


VE table

KPA
230 75 91 98 104 106 112 114 116 117 119 116 113
210 75 82 92 103 111 113 114 111 111 109 101 105
192 70 82 92 103 111 113 114 111 111 109 95 98
174 70 74 81 84 88 91 95 100 102 99 95 95
156 65 72 77 81 85 81 90 91 95 95 92 90
138 61 66 75 74 72 85 85 88 92 91 89 88
120 59 62 72 73 66 68 78 84 88 84 84 85
98 52 67 68 68 65 68 69 78 77 79 77 79
78 48 59 52 65 56 63 64 69 75 76 72 75
56 34 35 41 51 50 57 60 67 74 74 73 80
38 23 24 20 40 34 37 49 55 66 74 77 81
20 20 20 13 12 11 11 13 35 48 59 73 77
600 1K 1600 2200 2800 3400 4k 4600 5200 5800 6400 7k

This table was after using autotune to tune the low RPM/non boost values of the table.

This is for 42# injectors at 3 bar using MS v2.2 and MSnSE to tune it.

I've been tweaking numbers back and forth for a month now and nothing seems to help...

Steve

Feel free to check out the project at: http://www.motorgeek.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7813

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 1:03 pm
by quattrodave
Hiya,

Your settings dont look too different to mine apart from your cranking pulse widths!! I've got them set to -40 = 5.2 and 160 = 1.2.

Let me know what happens.

Dave