IDLE PWM valve configuring

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Post by johnc32779 »

Nuts, in my first post above:
after warm up are you using the 3-wire idle valve to control idle speed? If so, I am puzzled as I can find that ability in MS-II
should read:
after warm up are you using the 3-wire idle valve to control idle speed? If so, I am puzzled as I can not find that ability in MS-II
MOPS, thank you for your prompt reply. I think we are now both on the same page, and your input is helpful. Today, I got my engine idling for the first time and very quickly came to the realization that MS-II currently has no explicit ability to set idle speed. For some reason I had it in my mind that MS-II had closed loop idle control like the Motronic system I am replacing. Then I starting reading the tuning instruction for setting idle by adjusting the VE table for lowest MAP while keeping RPM constant by adjusting the idle screw as required. At this point I was saying oh sh%$ to myself -- what have I gotten myself into. Anyway, your last post has given me incouragement that I haven't totally lost my mind, and there is light at the end of the tunnel.
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Post by mops »

ok, to get idle stable you need the following:

1. stable IAT reading (ms will compensate, co if you tune it at 20deg C, it will idle higher at 8 deg C )

2. stable timing.... my engine generally incerases idle speed by 100 rpm per 1 degree of timing around idle map/rpm point. It is crucial to have stable timing there otherwise idle will be rolling

3. control over pwm idle valcve

4. tune idle only when fully warmed up - that idleudes warmed up oil pressure/temp not just coolant at normal operating temp

5. tune for lowest kpa around stock idle rpm. i'd stick on trying to 14.7 air/fuel for now. you can lean it later.

5. once you have done all of the abouve then tune your ve... shouldnt be very difficult.
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Anyone have a working link to that picture?

3-wirev30.jpg -- seems to be dead.
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IDLE PWM valve configuring

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Anyone have a working link to that picture? 3-wirev30.jpg -- seems to be dead.


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Anyone have a working link to that picture? 3-wirev30.jpg -- seems to be dead.


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cscm094,

The link should be working now (along with the rest from the forums). Thanks to MoveX for the 'heads up'!

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cscm094, The link should be working now (along with the rest from the forums). Thanks to MoveX for the 'heads up'! Lance.
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